Democrats fighting for Illegals

I see the democrats continue to fight to keep their voter base in the
Country
Democrats will vote against an upcoming funding bill if it doesn’t “rein in” federal immigration enforcement efforts after the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis man by a Border Patrol agent, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said.

Yeap, the Democrats need those illegals to be counted on the US Census as it gives them more Congressman and Senators to represent them, also shifts the balance of Electoral Votes. So for those uninformed, the illegals do get a vote. And that is why the Democrats opened up the borders. They were loosing Democratic voters, and this is a desperate last resort to maintain power.

Don't let this happen. Non citizens should not have a vote. The Democrats found a backdoor way to use them. "USE THEM"

Backdoor, cheating and illegal tactics are pretty much all the radicals, who've taken control of the Democrat party have left to remain in existence and hopefully regain (total) power.

you folks have lost sight of what America is or should i say was , Dems and Reps need to stop this B.S or we're gonna be in some deep •••• ! This latest plight on our country of just plain violence is wrong . I get removing illegals from the country BUT there's a right and wrong way of doing it . Shooting unarmed people and blatantly lying about it to America is just plain wrong . None of you can say That guy was a threat to anybody .

You probably should look back to your ancestors. They have been all illegal migrants who had stolen the land from the Indians.
Do you think you and your relatives are better and more honorable people?
Most of you pretend to be religious people. Do you know what's written in the Bible. Even in the very exclusive DJT-you can read how you should treat your neighbor. I cannot remember that there is any statement that you should kill them. Ask your prayer next Sunday....

I hear the fraud in Los Angeles is 10 times worse than Minnesota. Go figure. That’s our money. They’ve been saying for years. There will be no Social Security left. Here’s your sign.

You probably should look back to your ancestors. They have been all illegal migrants who had stolen the land from the Indians.
Do you think you and your relatives are better and more honorable people?
Most of you pretend to be religious people. Do you know what's written in the Bible. Even in the very exclusive DJT-bible you can read how you should treat your neighbor. I cannot remember that there is any statement that you should kill them. Ask your prayer next Sunday....

diver... neither were unarmed, one had a gun the other a car, but I agree nobody should lose their life over this.

By some count there are 40,000 border patrol and ICE agents across the country. Minneapolis is the only place where there really seems to be a strong opposition for the local officials from working with ICE on the removal of criminal aliens.

If the locals were there for crowd control versus the feds, this may not be an issue.

And don't give me the crap about peaceful protests. I'm sure the none government guests at the Hilton hotels and the hotel itself appreciate the actions of these fringe protestors.

I assume the most criminals there a within the boarder control and Ice group

Read Romans 13 1-7 and get back to me And are you going to tell me that our ancestors broke any , then current laws? Do you mind telling me what laws and who made them? Driver531. Please share with us about how you would do it ? And I would appreciate specific details. And before you go off on how Trump is destroying “fishing boats” and no due process. Remember how he stoned thousands of people without due process. He made Bush , who you hated for doing the same thing , look like a, wannabe

Democrats New World Order , it’s nothing new , it’s been going on for years , we let it happen

I assume the most criminals there are within the boarder control and Ice group

Couplex123, Chucky and the rest of the Dems have lost their minds (Fetterman is the exception).
How quickly they forget what happened the last time they pulled this stunt....bring it on, let's see how many more Americans will say goodbye to the dem party for good.
There's been New info on the latest shooting coming out daily, First, he was told to get back and didn't, that makes him a threat. Second, enhanced pictures seem to show that the weapon thought to have been removed from the perpetrator is actually a standard issue ICE weapon, no optic visible, unlike the weapon that the perpetrator had. Now we find out that at least a couple of the ICE agents had body cams on. We won't know all the details for a while, but I still maintain that Federal agents don't randomly shoot people for no reason, but remember, this isn't the movies or TV, the minute a weapon is involved, a federal agent has a green light to shoot you, they are Not obligated to tell you to drop the weapon or any such silliness.

I assume the most criminals there are members of the boarder control and Ice group

Read Romans 13 1-7 and get back to me And are you going to tell me that our ancestors broke any , then current laws? Do you mind telling me what laws and who made them? Driver531. Please share with us about how you would do it ? And I would appreciate specific details. And before you go off on how Trump is destroying “fishing boats” and no due process. Remember how he stoned thousands of people without due process. He made Bush , who you hated for doing the same thing , look like a, wannabe

Karl. It’s a free country. Think what you want. But that doesn’t make you right. And, what Mrsbr 13102 said. Say hi to the Mrs would you Mrsbr?

I assume the most criminals there a within the boarder control and Ice group

Enjoy, you are 100% correct, this is nothing more then the Dems seeking to control power, they know with the removal of the illegal's they will lose seats and welfare an other federal money that they have been scamming through fraud. there plan was to make the illegal's legal, give them voting rites and keep power, for there new world order B.S. which Soros and Davos have been pushing for, the Dems have set up the image of I>C>E> being bad when Biden said they were horse whiping people, when he knew that was not true, but it started the narrative, so all I can say is FUCK the democrats !!!

Hi all, go away from thinking in black and white, or better red and blue, or reps and demos. Think about all the people. Most of you believe in the good of the people. Try to understand the opposite and try to make the world better - together with your neighbor - independent if he or she red or blue.

Karl. I try to do that. I think most of my posts reflect that somewhat. And I admit that I’m definitely conservative. Yes I may fail on occasion at being totally reasonable. I do try to look at things from the other side. But I do have a problem with siding with a group of people that idolized George Floyd. No, he shouldn’t have died. But there is evidence that he was in bad health and on drugs at the time. I also have a problem with siding on the likes of that Garcia from Maryland. And where I do think we have a right to protest. However I don’t believe to obstruct law enforcement from doing their job. I don’t think they have the right to riot at ICE facilities Doing what is happening in Minnesota now is breaking the law. And the enforcement isn’t the law breakers for the most part. If the lefties were not there. There would be the trouble Unless if they were LAWFULLY protesting.

Perhaps Karl when the left backs down others will. Remember every action causes a reaction. Sometimes when you push you will not like what or how hard it pushes back

9/11 happened 25 years ago. Now look who New York City voted in for mayor, an islamist/communist who was actually happy about the destruction of the World Trade Center by islamic radicals, like himself. Most of the people who voted for him weren't even alive for 9/11.

Look at reps like omar, talib, aoc, pressley and the rest of the dems, who think that America is the problem!! Marxists, communists, socialists have slowly infiltrated our country, and our government schools are helping by indoctrinating our youth to accept these policies as productive systems.

It's sad to see the people of Minnesota allow dickheads like walz and frey destroy that state and city, by goading the paid protesters to action. We are our own worst enemy!!

The woman hit a cop with her car and got shot! The guy brought a gun to a protest and got shot! FAFO!!!

Karl I am sorry that the illegal's were nothing more then a political pawn of the dems to maintain and keep power and continue on there one world order funding by Soros and the Davos crowd, But in doing so they would have destroyed the U.S., don't believe me look at Europe now, they are losing there culture, there economy is in shambles due to the high rate of immigrants flooding there country. The immigrants due not want to assimilate, and we are seeing the same with the Somali people that flooded across the border, and were brought here by Obama and all settled in Minnesota as a voting block, it is all political by the Dems

Clyde601958, I don't agree on most of your points.
Sure, there are always some idiots around, independent if left or right.
I agree that there are laws which have to be followed. Beginning by the president down to each visitor of the US. I believe boarder control and Ice aren't following the laws mainly too. Why are there so many lies? Look to the videos and you will see what happened. Amerika was a great Land, even if some things went wrong, before some people began to destroy the democracy. It's easier to rule as a dictator than keeping a good democracy alive. Look to Russia, China and other countries. Do you thing it's desirable for people to live there. You say America is a free country - I believe it's changing rapidly.... And not to the good.

To your point, nowcurious, there is a Nick Shirley video on the tube that shows what has happened to Paris, France. Nick and his mom and some others made a trip to France and he videoed some of the migrant scammers and pickpocket's, ripping off tourists, and scamming the government out of tax money.

Karl the change is happening because the Democratic party has been taken over by socialist and it's goal is the destruction of America, The media is so bias, as it is controlling the people with false truths, wake up Karl have you been to Europe lately ?? there culture and economy is gone, is that what YOU want for America ??

Hey dialedin, went to London, saw more women in burkas then normal dress, they have lost there culture along with most of Europe

Nowcurious2, I disagree.
Sure there is a lot of trouble around the world and the world is changing permanently.
Europe is not loosing its culture, it changed. Due to technical progress some country got rich and the poor partly want to participate. Why did so many European people migrate to the US 200 years ago. They had no future, no food due to dry periods etc. Similar happens now. Syrian people where killed by their own president and his support by Putin. People from other African countries had to leave their countries. Ukrainian people are bombed by Putin and his criminals. So from my point of view it's our duty to help them to survive. I know there are also a lot of criminals too, but do u think there are less criminals inside the US or European people? We need to help them teaching how democracy is working and my experience is that most of those refuges would love to return to their home countries ASAP....

I STRONGLY suggest YOU go to Europe before you spew your feelings, because THAT is not reality, take off your rose colored glasses and see what's happening, and quit watchin the liberal media

Newcurious, I have been near the blue rich mountains. I saw more people driving cars than Sioux people on their ponies. Does this mean the culture of America got lost too?

Karl, old saying, you can not argue with a fool, so keep your silly comments to yourself, you will look smarter

Its not about protecting illegals, its about protecting civil liberties for all Americans at this point.

The GOP is realizing this was a tipping point moment and they are losing the war. The strong arm tactics are not sitting well with the majority of Americans.

The softening of the messaging has already started. Trump is distancing himself from comments made by Noem and Miller.

We can remove illegal immigrants and especially criminals within this bunch without dragging citizens from their cars and homes without a warrant. The administration is finally getting that message.

BTW. I am already in Europe. You can ask me anything and I will answer your questions.
I appreciate to live in a country which is really free, even if it's hard sometimes....

"I get removing illegals from the country BUT there's a right and wrong way of doing it ."

The right way for ANY law enforcement is for citizens to stay the fuck away from the enforcement.
They are free to verbally protest and take all the video they want, but interference is the WRONG way for the process to happen.

My last statement for today
Look, the US has approx 350 Mio people. Immigrants are about 10 Mio. These 10 Mio, less than 3 percent,make up approximately 5% of the US workforce. In some sectors, such as Californian agriculture, their share is over 50%

It would be better to care about the 97 percent than about the minority of 3 percent. If you drink some wine or milk or eat some vegetables think about that most likely there is some workforce of your "enemies" inside.

Karl, I believe what my own eyes have seen NOT what some poster, who may be a bot or a die hard socialist says, if YOU believe Europe is not losing it's culture, then you are either foolish or part of the problem, or maybe some loser in your parents basement, either way I believe what I have experienced first hand, not what YOU say

Just one more thing...

Truth or lie?

I just saw this on NTV:
Trump is "America's Hitler," a "cynical •••••••," or an "idiot" these statements come from none other than US Vice President JD Vance. Ten years ago, he was a staunch supporter of the Never Trump movement. And he's not the only one who has done a complete about-face

So, what's the truth? To whom should I believe?

karl who gives a sh.t...kamala called biden a racist

I am also very confused about this. Shouldn't it be people of color out there standing up for their people? All I am seeing on TV are white women with unnaturally colored hair and thin scrawny malnourished white men.

The Democratic party is losing more members every day because working men and women are going to eventually get tired of their hard-earned money being spent for things that they do not believe in

karl, since you say you do not live here, lets give you a little recap in his 1st year
1. Ended 8 wars
2. Closed and secured the border
3. Stopped a lot of fraud and waste
4. ended the woke doctrine
5. made us energy independent
6. Stimulated the U.S. economy to record growth
7. rebuilt the military
8. Destroyed Iran's nuclear capabilities
9. kept men out of women's sports
10. destroying drugs that have been killing Americans
11. Made other countries pay their fair share in Nato
Just to name a few things he did in a year

Karl, your awful quiet now, God bless Trump !!

I 100% support law and order. I also 100% removing ALL illegals asap. I also 100% support ICE. If that means killing protestors when ICE feel their lives are in danger bring it on. In that situation you have about 1 second to make a decision. I would shoot before possible getting shot. Current information confirmed this last idiot stopped working about 3 months ago and joined the organized group protesting. His parents warned him several times. The sorry pos committed suicide by cop, plain and simple. Those who know and have been there have explained the rioters are both well organized and well trained. Everyone of them are fair game for what they are doing. More action to take control by ICE is needed. If the paid protesters want to continue it should cost them their lives. My position is not going to change so all you cry babies go join the organizers and see if you are willing to give your life. ICE should oblige you.

stop talking •••• nowcurious, this aint worth the breath, 250 years of solid logical cooperation. nothing matches it. every point you bring out has been attempts to either outright destroy or attempt to destroy a civilization. instead of releasing superstitions and wives tales(of dead men mostly) and creating civilizations for self life/living is boiling down to this. the conflicts of the leadership has grown beyond explanation.

the only good point is the opium deja vu

why do i bother

Then do us a favor, Don't bother, your against things that are making America great again, so go FUCK yourself, and don't bother to answer

Conflict of leadership has always existed in the world, Democracy vs Socialism/communism, but now it is happening in our own country, with Democrats being communist/socialist and Republicans being for democracy. It is as simple as that

A democrat is the worst •••• to ever hit the face of the earth

Look, after the impeachment end of the year a democrat will be your new president, JD Vance.
JD Vance said a few years ago :
Trump is "America's Hitler," a "cynical •••••••," or an "idiot" these statements come from none other than US Vice President JD Vance. Ten years ago, he was a staunch supporter of the Never Trump movement. And he's not the only one who has done a complete about-face.

This was broadcasted on NTV.

Why should he have changed his opinion?

Bak4mor’s a wayward soul….eye roll

lol nowcurious

1. Ended 8 wars
You should look that up. He hasn't.

2. Closed and secured the border
We'll give him that

3. Stopped a lot of fraud and waste
He hasn't. If so where are the arrest for fraud? There are none. He dismantled agencies only to reconvene them. Creating waste

4. ended the woke doctrine
LOL, tell me what "woke doctrine" is
5. made us energy independent
He has not. We are more dependent on oil then ever.

6. Stimulated the U.S. economy to record growth
Absolute lie.

7. rebuilt the military
Explain how? what new systems has he brought on. Hows recruiting going??

8. Destroyed Iran's nuclear capabilities
Thats a big no, slowed it a tad

9. kept men out of women's sports
that has kept me up at night. Thank god. i believe that represent less than 1%. Great win!!!

10. destroying drugs that have been killing Americans
By blowing •••• up. That someone will be put up for charges for in 3 years. Drug deaths were declining before he was president

11. Made other countries pay their fair share in Nato
It's not a club there are no dues. You need to read up on that.

Just to name a few things he did in a year
The other things he has done is •••• on international law, and the constitution, destroyed a national monument, set back relations with our allies and trading partners, weaken the dollar, lost the trust of the majority of Americans and enriched himself.

Funny how someone makes out the Indians were these nice friendly tripes, for the most part they were savages. Attacking each other raping and killing. Not to mention they were so far behind the time they did not even have building they lived in basically TENTS.
Also appear to have serious Addiction issues.

Polar, spot on! You forgot to add that he has increased his net worth by $1.5B in a year. How's everyone else doing?

As for Dono, read the clues. Trump calls Walz and agrees to reduce the force, Nazi dress up wannabe ICE leader removed from Minneapolis, Trump calls ICE barbie to the WH and distances himself Miller and Noem's inflammatory comments.

I know you want the anti American tactics to continue, but thats not playing well with the majority of Americans who don't want to live in a police state.

12:35 Sounds like you forgot your meds today.

Bottom line. Federal statute 19-8-usc-1325

Don't like it, then change it.

polarbear you are spreading lies again, you have got to fine a better source to get your knowledge
as to 7....the military met their recruiting quota for 2025 by sept
6... gas is now 2.69 and when gas goes down everything that moves by it will follow in time
4..woke is when the person who couldn't get into med school on grades is now shoving a tube up your ass. scary thought isn't it
5... we sell more oil than we ever import now that's energy independent
9...i guess you never had a daughter
i could refute the rest but like all libtards you can't understand facts because liberalism is a mental disorder,

@karl58, Indians? What do the people of India have to do with this conversation.

So what country were you born in and where do you live now, seems English is not your first language.

You said "I appreciate to live in a country which is really free", I am curious which country in Europe is "really free".

Germany, France, Belgium, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy and Denmark have all ramped up deportations of illegal migrants.

Italy, Denmark, Austria, Belgium, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland - called on the European Union in May to make it simpler for member states to expel foreign criminals.

The UK has arrested over 12,000 people for speech violation in the UK, hardly "really free". lol

pitstop, why does maga feel the need for personal attacks instead of arguing with facts?

Military met their goals by lowering standards, allowing some low-scoring recruits to enter through prep courses.

gas prices alone will not stimulate the economy. where is all those manufacturing jobs promised. tariffs will start eating at the economy shortly.just kicked out all the cheap labor and pissed off canada - watch what happens to the construction sector.

You still havent provided a definition of woke

Gas at 2.69 does not mean we are energy independent. Hows those electric and natural gas bills? investing in wind, solar and other green energies gains independence

Again males in womens sports, you have no idea what the % is. Its not a national crisis, though maga feels it is. Its a womens sports organization issue and not a national issue.

Please feel free to refute what i have said try to use facts

polarbear..You outlined your points...fine.
What are the correct solutions then?

Solution? I responded to a listing of the administrations "accomplishments" so far this term. Its mostly spin.

So i guess if you are looking for a solution - get rid of this administration

polar you must be a green energy loser, I have worked as a senior electronics tech my whole career at power plants and green energy is a farce, if it is so great then why is China who makes all green energy not using it, just selling it ? Also haters just hate, if Trump cured cancer YOU would be screaming how many jobs he just ended !! I stand by my list of Trumps accomplishments and hope you receive treatment for your T.D.S.

And go back to the Dems ?
1. Open borders
2. Sky high gas prices
3. Making the illegal's legal so they can vote Democrat
4. Letting men play in women's sports
5. Paying for health care for illegal's
6. Sending billions over seas for L.G.B.T.Q
7. Shutting down jobs in America
8. Look at blue states run by Dems they are a disaster
9. Democrats are like little children, if they do not get there way they shut down the Government and sing stupid songs and make stupid commercials all reading the same script

nowcurious2... thats my resume for employment at cnn and msnbc. you got it right...

7:47 ...sorry but China uses the most wind power in the world.....by a lot

7:54 #6......really billions???.

Yes 4.1 billion, look it up

WOW....4.1billion$.....omg....what a waste of money......geez...what the heck did they spend it on?

nowcurious your getting you panties in a wad. Where have I professed a hated for Trump? I have merely pointed out that the accomplishments you stated are bogus or of little concern to the majority of people

As to China and green energy - China is the world's top electricity producer from renewable energy sources. Their energy needs are so large that renewables only cover about 30%. Denmark generates 80% of their needs from renewables. There is a whole list of countries if you care to look, I'm thinking your not one of those "on the fast track" techs if you didnt know that. By the could the reason for the shift from green energy here have anything to do with you can't corner the market on sun and wind? Doesn't cost anything to produce once all the structure is there. Mhmm,

On you democrat hate (lol) there is no reason for me to comment. That is history and we are dealing with the present. Doesn't matter what happened. It doesnt change the depths of ineptitude this current administration is in. All the maga's due is refer us back to CLinton, Obama, Biden. Like they have any relevance to today. they aren't in charge. The maga wing of the republician party is.

And all you Dem fuckers keep going to Jan.6th, and I will be the first to say, AFTER you prosecute the summer of love rioters with the same vigor as Jan 6th, then prosecute them. also polar do this, go to Black lives matter home page, click on donations it is a hyper link to Act Blue, the democratic party, that's why they never said a word, they were raking in the money

Now, looks like this little debate is over. I never mentioned Jan 6th and what does Black lives matter in regards to the administrations accomplishment.

Another maga who can't defend the supposed accomplishments of their great leader.

polar you did exactly what I knew you would do, all liberals do the same thing , ignore my answers shift the data to support yourself and don't site sources, even when presented with facts you ignore them, because they don't fit your mind set, i hesitated to answer your post because i knew you would answer just the way you did, you can't learn truth because it doesn't fit your preset agenda, it's like trying to teach a dog advanced math there is nothing upstairs that is capable of it,

Pit, thats comical. I need to provide sources but you don't.
Military met their recruiting goals - yup but do you know how they managed to do that - lowering standards. So, on the face of it everyone is high-fiving. however when you look deeper you should be saying " oh shite" All you need to do is look at ICE and their "warm body" hiring spree. to see why lowering the standard might not be a good thing

Gas is down, yup and nothing is changing. why because everything else is going up. Gas prices do not drive the economy.

A simple google search refutes pretty much all your other statement except that all important, males in females sports. i can rest better with that.

and in closing you hesitated to respond because you don't have a response. Administration accomplishments (coming from the Administration) are like commercials - some are right on, others you need to read the fine print. It's called PR

with that response i rest my case

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